How tough is Sorrows Furnace? - Guild Wars Forums

Stuart444 · Jul 04, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Was thinking about trying this sometime, how tough is it?

My guild leader when I asked him said that the only real tough bit was the last quest, but i thought I would ask here and see what people say ^^

Konig Des Todes · Jul 04, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

The first two (Kilroy and Galen Task) are the easiest. Alkar can be tricky, never done Oozar or the final one. So 2/5 are easily h/h able, 1 should have at least one other friend to make it simple, other two, dunno.

Fril Estelin · Jul 04, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Your GL is probably right, for NM though. Even the last quest (which I did for the mini black moa) is not so tough, when prepared or in group. But it's a fun, beautiful and nice part of Prophecies, you should definitely try it!

Stuart444 · Jul 04, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45

Well tbf there will be two players and 6 heroes (unless my GL comes on and wants to come along then it would be 3 people)

I hardly hear people talking about Sorrows Furnace so I forgot prophecies even had this until a few days ago

Fril Estelin · Jul 04, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

Well tbf there will be two players and 6 heroes (unless my GL comes on and wants to come along then it would be 3 people)

I hardly hear people talking about Sorrows Furnace so I forgot prophecies even had this until a few days ago

If you have the 3 campaigns and EOTN, don't miss the chance to do probably the best, most original and most fun quest of all:
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Moa_Chick
(beware, it may take you a lot of time)

Stuart444 · Jul 04, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

If you have the 3 campaigns and EOTN, don't miss the chance to do probably the best, most original and most fun quest of all:
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Moa_Chick
(beware, it may take you a lot of time)

I am an idiot, I destroyed Zhos journal since I didn't know what use it could be.

;_; now I have to do that on another character instead of the only one that has completed all the campaigns + expansion ;-;

FXCW · Jul 04, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I did all of SF using H/H and it was not all that challenging apart from the last one which would have been a lot easier had I been able to rely on another player rather than micro managing my heroes.

I used Sabway, but forget what henchies I took.

I know that there is a guide somewhere detailing what the best course of action is and which order to take the quests in; makes life a whole lot easier.

Edit: Part of the reason I went in there was to get my mini Moa chick, and he was worth all the running around ;P

ShoGunTheOne · Jul 04, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30

acturally i did all SF quests h/h
untill i got to the golem i was wandering why it was so easy
didn't even finish it back then cos i was just there for the black moa chick

Proff · Jul 04, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Did the whole thing with h/h, there's a couple tough parts but it shouldn't be too difficult with a balanced group.

quickmonty · Jul 04, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Your guild leader is correct. Did all the quests H/H for my black moa chick and the only difficult part is the last quest.

Nice area, and the quests are fun. See http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sorrows_Furnace for info on the quests. Hint: do the first listed quest first as it gives you a chance to explore most of SF and learn your way around.

Breakfast Mc Rit · Jul 04, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04

I suggest you read up on how to get through it. I went in there unprepared and not knowing what to expect and, while I did get rather far kidnapping some dwarf, I was totally overwhelmed when the going got tough.

Stuart444 · Jul 04, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

Quick question, if you do all of one persons quest, and fail the next persons, do you have to do the persons quest that you already completed again after exiting sorrows furnace

example, if I do the stone summit quests, complete it, then do Unspeakable, Unknowable quest, and fail it, do I have to redo the stone summit quest?

Tois · Jul 04, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Kilroy in SF is still one of the funniest quests in GW.

Mostly it is all simple enough with H/H, some are easier with another person, but now you can flag hero's it makes it easier. The priest quest is annoying as you have to split into 2 groups, and Oro can be tough as it gets bugged occasionally. But otherwise it's great fun.

*Edit* No you don't have to redo the quests, only have to do each one once, but can redo them as much as you want (hence Oro farming or FA farming). You can even redo FA as much as you want once you have done it once.

Tatyana K · Jul 04, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55

I had some troubles alone (h/h) with protecting NPC (priest quest - forgot his name) - but with help of friend and 6 heroes was easy.

Kusandaa · Jul 04, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by Tois

Kilroy in SF is still one of the funniest quests in GW.

Mostly it is all simple enough with H/H, some are easier with another person, but now you can flag hero's it makes it easier. The priest quest is annoying as you have to split into 2 groups, and Oro can be tough as it gets bugged occasionally. But otherwise it's great fun.

*Edit* No you don't have to redo the quests, only have to do each one once, but can redo them as much as you want (hence Oro farming or FA farming). You can even redo FA as much as you want once you have done it once.

Aaah good ol' Oro and FA farm. Good times spent in there.

I remember when I first did the quests, Oro had been pretty hard and I was stuck on Alkar for months because all the teams failed at splitting efficiently. I don't even remember how I completed it the first time.

However, I recently did it (again) with 2 other people + heroes, we breezed through the quests... even Alkar. We had a bit of a problem there when Dunk's AI started to spazz and one had to flag her Tahlkora all the way where we were... twice... aside that we thought it was fairly easy. FA was also easy but we were prepared for it (everything is easy with Pain Inverter

).

zwei2stein · Jul 04, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Whole of SF was possible for Henchmen only, easy ish with H/H and 2 players with heroes who know what they are doing should have no problems with it.

There are tougher parts, but they are well known and you can fully prepare for them.

isamu kurosawa · Jul 04, 2008, 12:46 PM // 12:46

With the addition of new skills from other campaigns, and even more so with heroes SF has lost any form of difficulty.

I havn't tried scince the update but Alkar was possible taking 2 monk heroes and a shadow form sin, leaving the monks with the npc while you go kill. Orozar could be done the same way with 2 sins and 2 hero monks, as can kilroy. The last quest can be done with a single sin as its mostly no fighting.

A full team, especially a martial team will simply tear though all foes there. If they are not bad players of course.

Squishy ftw · Jul 04, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

Was thinking about trying this sometime, how tough is it?

My guild leader when I asked him said that the only real tough bit was the last quest, but i thought I would ask here and see what people say ^^

Easy, very easy.

I can 4-men a lot of it with 3 heroes(no solo/tank builds..) without any real problems, so any somewhat decent party of 8 should breeze through it.

The only somewhat hard parts are certain quests.

crazybanshee · Jul 04, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

Most of sf is h/hable, including the last quest (I've done it several extra times, for black moa and for the hom statue) The quests leading up to that are trickier, the one where you have to protect alkar and go fight enemies means splitting up, so it's much easier with at least 1 other real person. Other than that, if you're smart and have good hero builds you should be able to do it.

romeus petrus · Jul 04, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

All but one quest is easily done with h/h. Hardly qualifies as an "Elite Area" imho.

Jul 04, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33	#1
Stuart444 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alexandria, Scotland Guild: The Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: W/	How tough is Sorrows Furnace? Was thinking about trying this sometime, how tough is it? My guild leader when I asked him said that the only real tough bit was the last quest, but i thought I would ask here and see what people say ^^

Jul 04, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#2
Konig Des Todes Ooo, pretty flower Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Citadel of the Decayed Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore] Profession: N/	The first two (Kilroy and Galen Task) are the easiest. Alkar can be tricky, never done Oozar or the final one. So 2/5 are easily h/h able, 1 should have at least one other friend to make it simple, other two, dunno.

Jul 04, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#3
Fril Estelin So Serious... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Guild: Nerfs Are [WHAK] Profession: E/	Your GL is probably right, for NM though. Even the last quest (which I did for the mini black moa) is not so tough, when prepared or in group. But it's a fun, beautiful and nice part of Prophecies, you should definitely try it!

Jul 04, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45	#4
Stuart444 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alexandria, Scotland Guild: The Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: W/	Well tbf there will be two players and 6 heroes (unless my GL comes on and wants to come along then it would be 3 people) I hardly hear people talking about Sorrows Furnace so I forgot prophecies even had this until a few days ago

Jul 04, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01	#7
FXCW Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London,UK Guild: Passionate Kiss of Nosferatu Profession: R/	I did all of SF using H/H and it was not all that challenging apart from the last one which would have been a lot easier had I been able to rely on another player rather than micro managing my heroes. I used Sabway, but forget what henchies I took. I know that there is a guide somewhere detailing what the best course of action is and which order to take the quests in; makes life a whole lot easier. Edit: Part of the reason I went in there was to get my mini Moa chick, and he was worth all the running around ;P

Jul 04, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30	#8
ShoGunTheOne Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Undercity Guild: 泰瑞亚联盟 Profession: E/	acturally i did all SF quests h/h untill i got to the golem i was wandering why it was so easy didn't even finish it back then cos i was just there for the black moa chick

Jul 04, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38	#9
Proff Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2007	Did the whole thing with h/h, there's a couple tough parts but it shouldn't be too difficult with a balanced group.

Jul 04, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59	#10
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Your guild leader is correct. Did all the quests H/H for my black moa chick and the only difficult part is the last quest. Nice area, and the quests are fun. See http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sorrows_Furnace for info on the quests. Hint: do the first listed quest first as it gives you a chance to explore most of SF and learn your way around.

Jul 04, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#11
Breakfast Mc Rit Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: [Sin] Profession: Me/	I suggest you read up on how to get through it. I went in there unprepared and not knowing what to expect and, while I did get rather far kidnapping some dwarf, I was totally overwhelmed when the going got tough.

Jul 04, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27	#12
Stuart444 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alexandria, Scotland Guild: The Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: W/	Quick question, if you do all of one persons quest, and fail the next persons, do you have to do the persons quest that you already completed again after exiting sorrows furnace example, if I do the stone summit quests, complete it, then do Unspeakable, Unknowable quest, and fail it, do I have to redo the stone summit quest?

Jul 04, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59	#13
Tois Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Guild: Legacy of Echovald Profession: E/Me	Kilroy in SF is still one of the funniest quests in GW. Mostly it is all simple enough with H/H, some are easier with another person, but now you can flag hero's it makes it easier. The priest quest is annoying as you have to split into 2 groups, and Oro can be tough as it gets bugged occasionally. But otherwise it's great fun. Edit No you don't have to redo the quests, only have to do each one once, but can redo them as much as you want (hence Oro farming or FA farming). You can even redo FA as much as you want once you have done it once.

Jul 04, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#14
Tatyana K Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007	I had some troubles alone (h/h) with protecting NPC (priest quest - forgot his name) - but with help of friend and 6 heroes was easy.

Jul 04, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22	#16
zwei2stein Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Europe Guild: The German Order [GER] Profession: N/	Whole of SF was possible for Henchmen only, easy ish with H/H and 2 players with heroes who know what they are doing should have no problems with it. There are tougher parts, but they are well known and you can fully prepare for them.

Jul 04, 2008, 12:46 PM // 12:46	#17
isamu kurosawa Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Me/	With the addition of new skills from other campaigns, and even more so with heroes SF has lost any form of difficulty. I havn't tried scince the update but Alkar was possible taking 2 monk heroes and a shadow form sin, leaving the monks with the npc while you go kill. Orozar could be done the same way with 2 sins and 2 hero monks, as can kilroy. The last quest can be done with a single sin as its mostly no fighting. A full team, especially a martial team will simply tear though all foes there. If they are not bad players of course.

Jul 04, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08	#19
crazybanshee Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Look out! Profession: E/	Most of sf is h/hable, including the last quest (I've done it several extra times, for black moa and for the hom statue) The quests leading up to that are trickier, the one where you have to protect alkar and go fight enemies means splitting up, so it's much easier with at least 1 other real person. Other than that, if you're smart and have good hero builds you should be able to do it.

Jul 04, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28	#20
romeus petrus Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Urgoz Warren Guild: Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com	All but one quest is easily done with h/h. Hardly qualifies as an "Elite Area" imho.